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The M2 - The wasted summer of '96.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:54 pm
by 3DOKid
A sticky dedicated to the memory of something that never happened. The Panasonic 3D0 M2.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:44 pm
by Dryden
I remember picking up the very first issue of Next Generation magazine and gawking at all the gorgeous tech displayed in its glossy pages ... the Jag, the 3DO, the speculation that Sony would be sued for "dumping" the PSX in America ... etc ...

I had just bought the 3DO and Next Gen debuted at almost the exact same time. I believe it was that issue that had a great M2 write-up with screenshots of demo renders.

The funny thing about it though was that it was only a few months later that I bought a 486DX2 to play Doom and Rise of the Triad, and once I got into the BBS scene, Dwango, and the Internet, the entire premise of a console hooked to the TV with no modem or online play seemed silly to me, so I stopped console gaming altogether for probably 3 or 4 years.

I was still wondering when EB was going to get the M2 in almost a full year after the project had been officially scrapped.

I still regret not buying a 3DO Blaster to this very day. Anyone have one they want to sell me? :roll:

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:48 pm
by Trev
So, does anyone have pictures they'd like to share?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:02 pm
by Dryden

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:06 pm
by Trev
Yeah, I've seen the D2 pics on 3DOKids blog & also on YouTube. How about shots of IMSA Racing, Power Crystal, or some of the Konami arcade games? I'd also like to see some shots of the 2 kiosk units. I've scanned some pics myself, so hopefully I will add them soon :)

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:10 pm
by Dryden
Have you checked the Konami Total Vice pics here?

http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5702004

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:15 pm
by Trev
The link just comes up blank for me ...? But I have seen Total Vice pics, just not on this site.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:41 am
by 3DOKid
Everything would be cool.

:D

the ever hopefull - 3DO Kid.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:50 am
by fish
I remember when Resident Evil came out on PSX and admit to being pretty jealous. Then I got the 3DO mag and it had a pretty big spread on the M2. then my friend was getting pretty envious and was starting to regret getting his PSX!!! During that brief time it looked like 3DO was going to be back on top again, and had the machine been released I think it would have, especially if they released the add-on version as well as the console itself. Why Matsushitsa canned the project (as a console at least) after paying $$$ for it is beyond me!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am
by T2KFreeker
3DOKid wrote:Everything would be cool.

:D

the ever hopefull - 3DO Kid.
I agree, don't tease, let it all hang out . . . er, so to speak, that is. :oops:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:48 pm
by Trev
Here's my kiosk unit along with a proto controll pad:
Cool pic! This is the unit that plays dvds in I am correct. Do you have the original model? Also, other than the Chevy vehicle disc program and the architecture one (forgot the name) are there any other known applications available?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:03 pm
by Windows Killer
Trev wrote:This is the unit that plays dvds if I am correct.
Yes, it's an FZ-35S 1H1-M with a DVD drive and a 20 GB hard disk (there were a lot of variations). The most advanced piece of M2 hardware that was ever build. :) And the only unit that can (theoretically) play all M2 software, even the arcade games.
Trev wrote:Do you have the original model?
No idea what you mean, sorry. :roll:
Trev wrote:Also, other than the Chevy vehicle disc program and the architecture one (forgot the name) are there any other known applications available?
There were a lot of car dealership discs, not only the one from Chevy. The architecture program was called "vizHouse". I have some flyers for other software, but I don't know if any of it ever saw a release...

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:10 pm
by Trev
The original model was the FZ-21S and it did not include a dvd drive. I'd love to see scans of any and all flyers that you have :D

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:19 pm
by Windows Killer
That's what you meant with "original model"... The FZ-21S wasn't really the original model, though it depends on your definition. Anyway, no, I don't have an FZ-21S. Currently not worth the money for me, as I can do much more with the FZ-35S. The FZ-21S is a nice unit to put in a showcase, but that's it...

Give me a few minutes and I'll upload some more photos and scans. :)

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:37 pm
by Trev
Sweet photos! Even thought the later models were more advanced w/dvd & such, I always thought the earlier models looked nicer (much more like a video game console) Thanks for the pics! :D

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:07 am
by T2KFreeker
Nice pics man. I loved the M2, even though I never got a chance to actually play the damn thing! Talk about a total bummer here. I really wish that it would have released, even if only limited, then there would at least be a chance to get something out of it, as well as some games to be seen as well!

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:22 pm
by Trev
I clicked on the link, but this was all I got...

The video you have requested is not available.

I've never had toruble w/Youtube before... :(

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:33 pm
by 3DOKid
Trev wrote:I clicked on the link, but this was all I got...

The video you have requested is not available.

I've never had toruble w/Youtube before... :(
I have - it takes a while for Youtube to present the video. Give it time.

:)

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:33 pm
by Lemmi
Trev wrote:I clicked on the link, but this was all I got...

The video you have requested is not available.

I've never had toruble w/Youtube before... :(
same here, almost 12 hours to update?
The video you have requested is not available.

If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few minutes for the video to process.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:49 pm
by Gir Draxa
Greetings,

You know that is a curiosity. It took about 30 minutes for it to post and it worked fine last night. However, this morning, about 1/2 of the videos posted in the last 12 hours have a hard time loading.

Wonder what the beef is.

Drax

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:00 pm
by Lemmi
Gir Draxa wrote:Greetings,

You know that is a curiosity. It took about 30 minutes for it to post and it worked fine last night. However, this morning, about 1/2 of the videos posted in the last 12 hours have a hard time loading.

Wonder what the beef is.

Drax
ive never uploaded anything to youtube, but maybe there is a server problem?
is there a place like a youtube forum to find out if there are problems going on?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:04 pm
by Gir Draxa
Good Q. I don't do much with it myself, but the service is free. :)

Drax

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:51 am
by Gir Draxa
Greetings again,

Well it's working now, so enjoy!

Drax

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:22 am
by UnholyTancred
...

I'm speechless.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:02 am
by Windows Killer
I've got a high-res version of that video (captured by Madroms), which also has correct colors (the car is red, not orange ;)). I can upload it if anyone is interested.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:29 am
by 3DOKid
That looks fantastic - thanks Drax! Was it actually running on the M2 or, as with some original 3DO demos, running on an equivilent powered systems? (i.e. I bunch of high-end Macs)

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:39 am
by Windows Killer
It was pre-rendered on an SGI system using Alias|Wavefront software.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:32 pm
by Gir Draxa
Looks like your video is having the same problem as when I posted mine.

There were so many prototype demos, I would love to have seen the M2 versions. G-Police and Iron & Blood would have rocked so hard. I believe the FPS that you mention though was supposed to be a quasi-sequel to Escape from Monster Manor, at least from the screen grabs I've seen. We'll see when the video plays if it's the same as the stills I've got.

Drax

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:43 pm
by Windows Killer
Gir Draxa wrote:[...] Iron & Blood would have rocked so hard.
I don't think so. The PlayStation version was probably the worst beat'em up ever (or maybe the 2nd worst, let's not forget Rise of the Robots ;)). But there was no work done on the M2 version anyway, all screens were mock-ups.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:04 am
by Windows Killer
Gir Draxa wrote:NEXT GENERATION did a writeup on it, calling it IRONBLOOD, which included backgroundless (or minimally detailed backgrouds) characters (not just those 2 you see all over the web), and a few concept art pieces.
I know, I've read that issue of NextGen. But again, all screenshots were mock-ups. The M2 version never had a developer. Take 2 tried to hire Studio 3DO to do the game, but Studio 3DO did not agree and so the M2 version got canned before a single line of code was written.