How many 'good' games for jag do you reckon there are?

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How many 'good' games for jag do you reckon there are?

Post by doctorclu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:11 am

3DOKid wrote:Honestly.

I mean the good ol' 3DO had about 270 games in total, I reckon 50 are playable, about 30 are actually good and about 10 are brilliant.

I always felt this sort of dwarfed the Atari Jaguar...

But I'm happy to be proved wrong.
There was a message on Atariage that addressed this recently...
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.ph ... pic=146527

Which reminded us of a survey done on this amongst Jaguar gamers...
http://www.ataritimes.com/rankings.php?System=Jaguar

I've taken that list, made some suggested adjustments, and added some Jaguar scene created games. When I categorize something as "Good" did I have fun? Did it take effort to have fun? Well, if took effort, that would be playable. Ect.

1. Tempest
2. Doom
3. Worms
4. Alien vs. Predator
5. Iron Soldier
6. Rayman
7. Skyhammer.
8. Iron Soldier 2 .
9. Super Burnout .
10. Battlemorph .
11. Wolfenstein D .
12. Power Drive Rally .
13. NBA Jam Tournament Edition .
14. Virtual Light Machine .
15. Missile Command D .
16. Protector Special Edition .
17. Atari Karts .
18. BattleSphere .
19. BattleSphere Gold .
20. Ultra Vortek .
21. Protector .
22 Protector SE
23 Surrounded
<------HERE IS WHERE THE BRILLANCE ENDS?
24. Memory Track
25. Zool 2
26. Raiden
27. World Tour Racing
28 Mad Bodies (Newly Released)
29. Vid Grid
30. Myst
31. Cannon Fodder
32. Cybermorph
33. Attack of the Mutant Penguins
34. Breakout 2000
35. Pinball Fantasies
36. Primal Rage
37. Phase Zero
38. Val d Isere Skiing & Snowboarding
39. Theme Park
40. Hyper Force
41. Hover Strike: Unconquered Lands
42. Zero 5
43. Total Carnage
44. Brutal Sports Football
45. Defender 2000
46. Flashback
47. Baldies
48. Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
49. I-War
50. International Sensible Soccer
51. Syndicate
52. Gorf Classic
53. Painter
54. Brett Hull Hockey
55 Jaguar Hockey (CD release Jaguar Sector 2)
56. Atomic . (released 2007?)
57 Diamond Jag (released 2007?)
58. JagMind: Bomb Squad . (Newly released)
59. Double Feature # . (Newly Released)
60 Jagmania (Solid fan release)
61. Frog Feast (For what it was it was fun)
62. Ruiner
63. Zoop (For what it is it is fun.)
64 Fight For Life Beta (The strangely more polished version was fun.)
65. Soccer Kid
66 Jagtris (Solid fan release)
67 Osmozys (Released 2008)
68 Jungle Jag (Released 2007)
69 Jag Ads (a CD with Jaguar commericals, pretty cool)
70 Slam Racer (Fan release)
71 Brain Games (the segments that were finished were good.)
72. Do the Same (Jagware... up and coming 2009 release)
<---HERE IS WHERE GOOD ENDS
73. Soulstar (has that one segment that craps out, but works before/after)
74. Jetpac (2009 release, fun-ish)
75. Bubsy (My all time favorite with a STEEP learning curve.)
76. Asteriods (Only because of no sound)
77. Native (Only because of no sound)
78. Martian Attack (wrist and thumb abuse)
79. Warlords (Still very new, but looking good.)
80. The Maxx (An interesting demo)
81. Towers II
82. Barkley Shut Up and Jam . (Can I get a witness on this?)
83. Space War (Gameplay is good, but some bugs in it)
84. Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story
85. Crescent Galaxy (I liked this one, but most don't. A witness?)
86. Hover Strike (A bit raw to me and low frame rate.)
87. Fight For Life (The regular was unfinished. Beta added above.)
88. Blue Lightning (If you forget this is jet game it is fun.)
89. Highlander (Controls really take some getting used to.Can be fun)
90. Troy Aikman NFL Football (A witness? Never played this one.)
91. FlipOut! (I actually enjoyed this game)
92. Dragons Lair (Definately takes frustrating practice)
93. Dino Dudes (Haven 't played this long. An OK game)
94. American Hero (A fun ;) game (adult) but unfinished.)
95 Caves of Fear (in the spirit of American Hero.)
96. Braindead (More playable than Dragon's Lair or Space Ace)
97. Fever Pitch Soccer (Never played. A witness please...)
98. Kasumi Ninja (one of those games so bad it is good.)
99. Ocean Depths (Neat for what it was... a new release, might bump up)
100. Club Drive (Arrgg.. I want to say this is good, but many don't) :/
101 Black Ice/White Noise (A alpha game with a lot of promise)
102. Lost Treasures (Haven't played this, can I get a witness?)
103. Aircars (Bland landscapes make this a "playable"
104. Robinson's Requiem (Beta, rare, playable, but buggy)
105. Checkered Flag
<---HERE IS WHERE PLAYABLE ENDS
106. White Men Cant Jump
107. Arena Football
108. Space Ace
109. Supercross 3D
110. Double Dragon V
111. Varunas Forces . (Just an alpha version and an intro)


And there are a few games left off this list (Seaplane by Orion, the Tiny Toons alpha which really didn't do squat. I only left Varunas Forces up there since it was mentioned in the Ataritimes survey, but honestly, was that even playable?) I think the masses have spoken on this one, but I think the above shows the ratio of the games and the categories you were curious of (those categories I roughly placed). Not an exact science above, but I believe to be really close.
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Post by JagMod » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:25 am

:( No Mad Bodies on that list.

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Post by doctorclu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:31 am

Yeh the list was made before Mad Bodies came out. I would put it around #25 on the list above.

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Post by Trev » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:49 am

Why is the VLM included in the list? :?

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Post by doctorclu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:55 am

Didn't say the list was exact science. And strangely, when people voted for cool things on the Jaguar, that was one of the things voted for.

And honestly, when my Jaguar goes through times of non-play, it was a great VLM CD player. For what the VLM is all about, it is excellent, it accomplished its mission well.

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Post by Trev » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:05 am

Oh I agree, the VLM is cool to be sure. 8)

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Post by 3DO Experience » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:10 am

Soccer Kid should be higher on the list, unless it differs much from it's 3DO counterpart.
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Post by Trev » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:17 am

I agree! :)

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Post by sneth » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:29 am

Still good now

or

Good then?

cuz only a handful hold up now.

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Post by doctorclu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:55 pm

The list above was polled only last year, and for the most part I think it accurately shows the brilliant, good, and playable.

Space Ace is not playable. :P

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Post by doctorclu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:59 pm

I went ahead and bumped Soccer Kid up a bit, added a bunch of games that were not on there before, and renumbered.

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Post by Sauron » Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:36 am

Doc, I'm surprised you didn't bump Bubsy up to the top. :lol:

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Post by doctorclu » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:58 pm

Heheh thank you for noticing. Bubsy is on the top of MY persinal list. I tried to be considerate when I made this list however. What was brilliant, what was good, what was playable. Bubsy is good after a bit of a learning curve. Based on what a lot people say on the Bubster, I figured just below "good" or in other words not quite good but almost there seemed to be the fair consensus.

And Checkered Flag would normally be in the "unplayable" list along with Space Ace and all the rest, but some have attested to being able to play Checkered Flag with some practice, so I put Checkered Flag at the very bottom of "Playable". :)

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Post by 3DOKid » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:12 pm

sneth wrote:Still good now

or

Good then?

cuz only a handful hold up now.
What's good now?

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Post by doctorclu » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:28 am

The list I gave above was only made in the last two years, so I would say amongst Jaguar fans, the games listed as "Good" are good now.

The list above also takes things in mind, like the fact that this is this Jaguar we are talking about, so we are not comparing this to something you would find on the X-Box 360 or Wii.

What games are fun, work with the Jaguar as a platform well, etc. That is what is "good" according the list and in my book.

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