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Skycopter?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:09 pm
by Jones
First time I hear about that game!

Wasn't very popular, I guess...?

http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page ... SCREENSHOT

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:12 pm
by Jones
Alright, I've just seen it on YouTube.

Gee............ Looks more promising in a slideshow
somehow than in motion. :-(

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:16 am
by Trev
I can't believe this actually saw the light of day ... it looks terrible.

The Speedster game doesn't look much better either "Look out for that cowpie" :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:06 pm
by Calavera
I remember seeing this game in person. I'm not sure if it was a helicopter or a car but I know it had the walmart store in it.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:31 pm
by sneth
it was a kids ride game. I don't think they care about graphics.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:37 pm
by Jones
sneth wrote:it was a kids ride game. I don't think they care about graphics.
Are you serious?
The only reason why I loved "Bubble Bobble" as a 5-years old was
because of it's -for that time- photorealistic graphics!

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:37 pm
by 3DOKid
Jones wrote:
sneth wrote:it was a kids ride game. I don't think they care about graphics.
Are you serious?
The only reason why I loved "Bubble Bobble" as a 5-years old was
because of it's -for that time- photorealistic graphics!
Pang was for me. But i see what you are saying.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:20 pm
by Jones
Hehe, by the way:
You guys may have heard of the strict censorship here in Germany.

This is why "blood" in video games was often recolored to green e.g., to
make the enemies aliens instead of humans.
Or in Mortal Kombat 1 it was grey, so the blood wasn't blood anymore
but sweat.
Yeah, pretty ridiculous, I know. :)

Anyway, "Golden Axe" was only to be bought by people over 18 back
then, because of it's for those days explicit graphical violence - and it was not until 2005 that it was changed!
Until 2005 no teenagers were allowed
to buy the original "Golden Axe", too much blood and gore.
Though other games on contemporary hardware in 2005, which were *much* more explicit and photo realistic by then, were free to
buy at the age of 16.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:16 am
by 3DO Experience
I never could understand your censorship... you have some of the most gory gut-wrenching films, the hardest of the hardcore porn and yet a cartoony video game gets censored.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:24 am
by Scarlettkitten
Did someone say cartoony videogame :wink:

That cencorship is a bit odd :shock:

That skycopter game looks pants even for a childrens ride :o

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:23 am
by Trev
Is there a reason each of the games has a 2 in the title? I can't imagine they're sequels ... :?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:30 am
by Jones
3DO Experience wrote:I never could understand your censorship... you have some of the most gory gut-wrenching films, the hardest of the hardcore porn and yet a cartoony video game gets censored.
All true, except for the most gory gut-wrenching movies. ;)
Honestly, can you name one?
As far as I know, the US TV is much more tolerant concerning
this than ours.

And for Golden Axe - it really seems odd by todays standards,
but back then it was at least logical by the given laws.
At the end of the 80s Golden Axe had quite realistic
visuals, even though in comic style. Mangas get censored too,
and still today!

Sometimes it just takes long to cancel once made decisions, especially
concerning laws, and to adapt the laws to what's "normal" on today's
computer hardware. Modern graphics really set a different definition
of what is "realistic" and this is what makes this Golden Axe thing
finally pretty odd.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:42 pm
by 3DO Experience
Jones wrote:
3DO Experience wrote:I never could understand your censorship... you have some of the most gory gut-wrenching films, the hardest of the hardcore porn and yet a cartoony video game gets censored.
All true, except for the most gory gut-wrenching movies. ;)
Honestly, can you name one?
Hellraiser III Red Edition.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:21 pm
by Jones
3DO Experience wrote: Hellraiser III Red Edition.
Okay!
But... :wink:
1. This movie is not a German production - the Red Edition is
just a "Directors Cut".

2. The DVD is forbidden to be sold to people under the age of 18.

3. This movie, if broadcasted on TV, would be heavily cut.
Lets say about 10 minutes shorter, I guess.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:06 am
by 3DO Experience
1. I didn't say movies made in Germany.

2. We couldn't even get that cut here in this country.

3. There would be a lot more than 10 minutes cut if it aired here.

I have friends who import lots of movies because their bloodier versions are only available overseas, or in some cases it's the only way to get a movie. I do as well but I try to get mine from the UK as I've noticed a sync issue with English audio tracks from countries where English isn't the first language. I mean no offense, I understand, I probably couldn't sync up a German language track to save my life.

And with this we've derailed yet another thread. :)

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:51 am
by Jones
I am not quite sure if I get your point.
Hellraiser III uncut, after all I've told you, is censored here as well.
No regular shops, open for people of all age, are even allowed
to show the cases in their shelves.
Okay, you can buy it, but you could also buy "Golden Axe".
Usually TV is here more restricted regarding violence and blood
than in the USA, at least as far as I know - I've seen "Event Horizon"
uncut in American TV, in German TV it's broadcasted only cut.
"Golden Axe" looks rather cute for todays standards, but 20 years
ago it didn't - and there's also the aspect of interactivity, which doesnt
apply for movies. That's also why "Manhunt" got completely forbidden
here, whereas it was (is?) still sold in the USA.

And of course, you can say it's quite ridiculous that people felt offended
by a bunch of pixels like Golden Axe - I share that opinion! But same
thing in the USA for "Custer's Revenge" 7 years earlier, which is even more just a bunch of pixels.
3DO Experience wrote: And with this we've derailed yet another thread. :)
Yep. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:49 am
by 3DO Experience
Yeah there is something you are missing and something I am missing. We are way off topic anyway so I'm just not going to try and figure it out.

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:09 am
by Jones
Alright.
Sorry for talking off-topic that much!


Tried to find out something more about Skycopter and only very
little can be found:


In a really interesting twist to the CoJag legacy, Scott also reveals that
unmodified Jaguars were used as the main controller for two "kiddie
rides".
The Jaguar was used in three rides by Carousel International -- Speedster
II, Skycopter II, and SpaceGuy (never released). All of the rides were
programmed by Mario Perdue, who wrote Breakout 2000. The rides are
no longer manufactured, but can still be found near supermarkets,
K-Marts, and some Chuck E. Cheese pizza parlors to this day.


(Atari Jaguar FAQ)
-----

In addition to rights, the GOAT Store, LLC and Beta Phase Games, LLC have also acquired the remaining Jaguar cartridge and hardware inventories that Carousel possessed before closing shop. The hardware consists of a limited number of test fixtures – standard Jaguars with a special attachment that convert the Jaguar controller ports to an arcade-ready molex connector. These test fixtures were used during the development of the rides to test various pieces of them. A few test fixtures even have games bolted into them to prevent the cartridge from losing connection to the console.

Less than a dozen of these test fixtures were found. These fixture will be made them available directly through the GOAT Store web site for a limited time.


(Goat Store Publishing)

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:52 pm
by Trev
Still no idea why the games have II after them ...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:07 pm
by Jones
Hmm, dont know - couldn't find any clues about that.

I guess there has been a "Skycopter" kids ride before, which
didn't utilize the Atari hardware.

So the Atari Jaguar game was the second Skycopter ride, though
the first Skycopter on the Jaguar.

Re: Skycopter?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:29 pm
by NikeX
Jones wrote:First time I hear about that game!

Wasn't very popular, I guess...?

http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page ... SCREENSHOT
spock is not impressed

http://spockisnotimpressed.tumblr.com/

Re: Skycopter?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:30 am
by Trev
NikeX wrote:
spock is not impressed

http://spockisnotimpressed.tumblr.com/
What's he not impressed with? Surely not your derailing post! :P

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:38 am
by Jones
Maybe that one was "Skycopter I"?

Image


And that's how the Jaguar was used in the Skycopter II cabinet:

http://www.midwestgamingclassic.com/upl ... l_jag2.JPG

(Didn't embed the image, because it was far too big)

A "fixture" sounded actually far more elaborated than this simple
metal angle. ;)