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Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:08 pm
by a31chris
Sorry for the inconvenience folks but JSII will be down for perhaps a couple weeks. I will keep you guys informed as much as I can. For the curious anyway.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:30 pm
by NeoGeoNinja
a31chris wrote:Sorry for the inconvenience folks but JSII will be down for perhaps a couple weeks. I will keep you guys informed as much as I can. For the curious anyway.
Please do.

I am indeed, VERY curious 8)

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:07 pm
by sneth
well i wasnt curious before, but now I am...

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:44 pm
by Trev
sneth wrote:well i wasnt curious before, but now I am...
Same here.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:15 am
by a31chris
JSII is down again. Maybe for a while time as Jay seems to need a break. This time it seems someone filed a discrimination complaint against him. My guess it was Grimm as we just ended his account per his request. He was carrying on in this fashion.

So Jay is taking a breather.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:33 am
by NeoGeoNinja
a31chris wrote:JSII is down again. Maybe for a while time as Jay seems to need a break. This time it seems someone filed a discrimination complaint against him. My guess it was Grimm as we just ended his account per his request. He was carrying on in this fashion.

So Jay is taking a breather.
I don't think Grimm took too kindly to your 'offer' then, eh Chris? ;)

I half agreed with some of the points you made tbh though. He was the one constantly bringing the whole him vs a certain moderator to the surface, whilst telling himself he was letting it go, when it was visible to see, he wasn't unfortunately. Also, his choice of language when responding gave the impression that he was responding with angst and attitude. The problem there lies that he doesn't want PPL to 'read into' what he's saying, yet still chooses to phrase things in a manner which almost ANYONE would interpret in the same way; a tad aggressive. It doesn't take a genius - AS or not - to realise that responses such as "I could not give a sh*t" are unanimously viewed as an overly defensive stance.

It's a shame that PPL "read into" what has been written in black and white because, unfortunately, that is pretty much how the internet works - which sadly works against his conditions mindset :|

This is all a shame as I actually like the guy on the whole tbh...

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:02 am
by a31chris
NeoGeoNinja wrote:
a31chris wrote:JSII is down again. Maybe for a while time as Jay seems to need a break. This time it seems someone filed a discrimination complaint against him. My guess it was Grimm as we just ended his account per his request. He was carrying on in this fashion.

So Jay is taking a breather.
I don't think Grimm took too kindly to your 'offer' then, eh Chris? ;)

I half agreed with some of the points you made tbh though. He was the one constantly bringing the whole him vs a certain moderator to the surface, whilst telling himself he was letting it go, when it was visible to see, he wasn't unfortunately. Also, his choice of language when responding gave the impression that he was responding with angst and attitude. The problem there lies that he doesn't want PPL to 'read into' what he's saying, yet still chooses to phrase things in a manner which almost ANYONE would interpret in the same way; a tad aggressive. It doesn't take a genius - AS or not - to realise that responses such as "I could not give a sh*t" are unanimously viewed as an overly defensive stance.

It's a shame that PPL "read into" what has been written in black and white because, unfortunately, that is pretty much how the internet works - which sadly works against his conditions mindset :|

This is all a shame as I actually like the guy on the whole tbh...
He wants everything his way. Even when people apologize whether imperfectly or not. He won't bend at all. He wants to keep jabbing and bringing it up. Heaven forbid anyone should say anything to him.

Its a sad time for the Jaguar community for however long JSII stays down.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:15 pm
by sneth
Someone filed against a forum? How hilarious.

That person will be ridiculed for eternity now.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:05 pm
by a31chris
sneth wrote:Someone filed against a forum? How hilarious.

That person will be ridiculed for eternity now.
Its way pitiful.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:20 am
by 3DO Experience
sneth wrote:Someone filed against a forum?
:lol:

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:28 am
by Trev
Not the same Grimm who got banned from here ... ?

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:03 pm
by NeoGeoNinja
Yeah Trev, it will be.

It's a horrible conundrum for the guy to be honest. He comes across as a bit abrasive and I think that is a combination of his actual personality and his condition. It's these very straight-talking, no-nonsense traits that, unfortunately, PPL struggle to overlook. Like he often says, PPL read into what he's saying, but due to how things are worded, it's impossible for 99% of PPL not too. Sadly, he spends most of his time defending snarky comments posted back in his general direction, because PPL have read too much into what he initially wrote. But, it's human nature really. Everyone does the same thing: they're most often just being reactive.

I'm afraid the internet, most probably, is going to be a very tough place for him to get along in, as it's almost primarily black and white text. I honestly think he could benefit massively from some instruction and direction from a language professional who completely understands his condition, to help and support his understanding, interpretation and use of language online, as on the internet, it is the foremost usage of online communication. Especially as it's almost impossible for the rest of the internet to try and side-step the issue...

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:16 pm
by a31chris
NeoGeoNinja wrote:Yeah Trev, it will be.

It's a horrible conundrum for the guy to be honest. He comes across as a bit abrasive and I think that is a combination of his actual personality and his condition. It's these very straight-talking, no-nonsense traits that, unfortunately, PPL struggle to overlook. Like he often says, PPL read into what he's saying, but due to how things are worded, it's impossible for 99% of PPL not too. Sadly, he spends most of his time defending snarky comments posted back in his general direction, because PPL have read too much into what he initially wrote. But, it's human nature really. Everyone does the same thing: they're most often just being reactive.

I'm afraid the internet, most probably, is going to be a very tough place for him to get along in, as it's almost primarily black and white text. I honestly think he could benefit massively from some instruction and direction from a language professional who completely understands his condition, to help and support his understanding, interpretation and use of language online, as on the internet, it is the foremost usage of online communication. Especially as it's almost impossible for the rest of the internet to try and side-step the issue...
He wants everything his way. He is not even willing to try to bend a little or meet anyone halfway. He has a 'condition'. Well everyone has a condition of some sort and I think after years and years he has learned to not even try to get along and just fly off the handle at the littlest thing. I tried to calm him down in pm and he was just bonkers. No middle ground. No meeting anyone partway. No concessions. Grimms way or the highway.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:53 am
by a31chris
JSII is back up.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:04 pm
by sneth
I don't think he has a condition. I've dealt with asperger's on numerous occasions.
Nothing about him indicates this.

Am I an expert? More so than most.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:58 pm
by NeoGeoNinja
Might as well rename the thread: "Jaguar Sector II - Gone!" :(

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:26 am
by T2KFreeker
Yeah, now that I am finally back online now. Thi9s so pisses me off. Grimm and 10p6 are bo0th punks. I hope they never make to any other forum ever or that someone is hip to their crap and warns the moderators over there. Both of them are nothing but trouble. Between the both of them, JSII is gone now. I hope they are happy with what they did. Nightmare situation all around.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:11 am
by 3DO Experience
I wish an archive was at least up.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:18 am
by T2KFreeker
3DO Experience wrote:I wish an archive was at least up.
That's half the problem Jay has run into as of late. It's a really long story at this point. Very sad indeed.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:53 am
by a31chris
For those who don't know yet, JSII is down permanently.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:55 pm
by a31chris
Now that JSII is gone just a reminder that the JSII Subreddit is there now

http://www.reddit.com/r/jaguarsector/

along with The Jaguar_Sector_II IRC chat.

http://www.sorcery.net/chat_irc.php?tabid=37

The room is #Jaguar_Sector_II

Stop in and say hi.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:57 pm
by T2KFreeker
a31chris wrote:Now that JSII is gone just a reminder that the JSII Subreddit is there now

http://www.reddit.com/r/jaguarsector/

along with The Jaguar_Sector_II IRC chat.

http://www.sorcery.net/chat_irc.php?tabid=37

The room is #Jaguar_Sector_II

Stop in and say hi.
Hey, that's cool man. Sad that JSII is gone, but at least something is still there, I guess.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:28 pm
by sneth
Someone clue me in to the drama. I missed the details.
Troll litigation can go both ways. Might as well throw up the documents to the public.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:25 pm
by NeoGeoNinja
@JagChris & Darque:

There was a jaguar Sector discussion thread in the Jaguar section of AA, that I seem to suddenly be unable to find!

Any ideas where it might be? Just wanted to catch up on what's what but... can't seem to locate it anywhere? :|

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:18 am
by a31chris
It's deleted.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:41 am
by NeoGeoNinja
Hmmm.

I sense a trend emerging.

I suppose, if we unravel ALL of the complete bullshit, that has in turn - singlehandedly disabled JS-II permanently - then the very same could happen here too?

And all because, initially, a specific individual couldn't stand to be called out publicly on his pricejacking and artificial sales ethics! :roll:

Aaanyway...

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:46 am
by sneth
NeoGeoNinja wrote:Hmmm.

I sense a trend emerging.

I suppose, if we unravel ALL of the complete bullshit, that has in turn - singlehandedly disabled JS-II permanently - then the very same could happen here too?

And all because, initially, a specific individual couldn't stand to be called out publicly on his pricejacking and artificial sales ethics! :roll:

Aaanyway...

as i said, troll litigation can go both ways....
Just need to know more information.
It doesnt cost much to file. Counter all day.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:22 am
by 3DOKid
Looks like I got away with Grimm lightly. :shock:

Look JSII guys, if there is anything I or we here can do to help, just ask. Anything is possible. Just PM myself, 3DO Experience or Trev.

We have a zero tolerance for difficult forum members. :)

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:45 am
by T2KFreeker
3DOKid wrote:Looks like I got away with Grimm lightly. :shock:

Look JSII guys, if there is anything I or we here can do to help, just ask. Anything is possible. Just PM myself, 3DO Experience or Trev.

We have a zero tolerance for difficult forum members. :)
You the man Kid. As you heard, you did get off easy with Grimm. Also, before anyone else get's with the idea that I was "Mean" or "Misunderstanding" of grimm, keep in mind he has been banned from here, JSII, Digital Press, and Sega 16 as well. He is also in danger of getting the boot over at the Ouya Forum as well and is really not liked in the Turbografx scene either where he is known as a very hateful drama queen. Just saying.

Re: Jaguar Sector II down

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:15 pm
by Austin
a31chris wrote: He wants everything his way. He is not even willing to try to bend a little or meet anyone halfway. He has a 'condition'. Well everyone has a condition of some sort and I think after years and years he has learned to not even try to get along and just fly off the handle at the littlest thing. I tried to calm him down in pm and he was just bonkers. No middle ground. No meeting anyone partway. No concessions. Grimms way or the highway.
True story. I've experienced this first-hand, and it's not fun. You're always the bad guy in the end, and there's no true debating with this individual. No matter what you say or how honest your reasoning is, every little detail will be picked apart, analyzed to a tiny grain, and be retorted in a particularly negative manner. Good riddance, I say.
3DOKid wrote:We have a zero tolerance for difficult forum members. :)
Sometimes. That Trev guy is still here... :P