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3DO Durability
Hi, I was thinking about buying a 3DO system and I just wanted to know how durable the 3DO is and any known hardware issues that I could possible encounter?
FZ1 system could blow a fuse, the CD drawer could get stuck or stop working
Goldstar system the CD drawer could get stuck or stop working, plus some earlier model have game compatability issues (am i right on this?)
FZ10 has no issues that i am aware of
overall the 3DO systems are built solid. the FZ1/Goldstar are tanks and weigh as much, the FZ10 is smaller/lighter but its still a solid little system
Goldstar system the CD drawer could get stuck or stop working, plus some earlier model have game compatability issues (am i right on this?)
FZ10 has no issues that i am aware of
overall the 3DO systems are built solid. the FZ1/Goldstar are tanks and weigh as much, the FZ10 is smaller/lighter but its still a solid little system
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I currently own an FZ-1 & Sanyo unit - both are very solid and give me no issues despite their age. I owned a goldstar back in the day and it gave me nothing but greif - the game compatibility issues do exist on the early ones and the ribbon cable constantly pinches between the tray and the motherboard.After being "repaired" several times mine spent most of its life with the case opened and the cable stiffened with cellotape.
Thats just my experience , others swear by the goldstar.
To this day I refuse to buy any goldstar product.
Thats just my experience , others swear by the goldstar.
To this day I refuse to buy any goldstar product.
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I've never owned a 3DO, even though I've been wanting one for the past ~14 years after playing a friend of mines when it came out. You guys have made me nervous about my recent Goldstar purchase... There is a 30 day warranty on it, but still. I think i'll throw down a few extra bux next month and get an FZ-1. It hasn't been delivered yet, but should come this week.
I can't wait to play Myst again, but on a console!
I can't wait to play Myst again, but on a console!
there is nothing to worry about untill you get it and nothing plays in the system. the compatibility issue isnt a huge one maybe only a handfull of games at the most and it could also be the game itself and not the system as there are many games with CD revisions. the CD drawer problem can happen to any older system with a drawer (like the original Sega CD, Philips CD-i ... ETC) i have a CD-i system that the drawer doesnt work anymore but the system does i just have to use it with the top off to manually open the drawerManAndDjinn wrote:I've never owned a 3DO, even though I've been wanting one for the past ~14 years after playing a friend of mines when it came out. You guys have made me nervous about my recent Goldstar purchase... There is a 30 day warranty on it, but still. I think i'll throw down a few extra bux next month and get an FZ-1. It hasn't been delivered yet, but should come this week.
I can't wait to play Myst again, but on a console!
ive owned 2 different goldstar units and both never had any issues with them, but i still think the FZ10 is the best 3do system
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I finally received the system in the mail yesterday. Does Myst have issues with the console? Here's the situation:
Hooked up system, put in myst, and played it for about 20 minutes. The loading times are pretty rough, but I remember it being kinda like that in the Playstation version. After that I put in way of the warrior and it worked perfect, but after playing that, I stuck myst back in and it wouldn't read it for some reason.
I guess i'll play around with it a bit more and if other games don't work, i'll send it back and get a different one.
Hooked up system, put in myst, and played it for about 20 minutes. The loading times are pretty rough, but I remember it being kinda like that in the Playstation version. After that I put in way of the warrior and it worked perfect, but after playing that, I stuck myst back in and it wouldn't read it for some reason.
I guess i'll play around with it a bit more and if other games don't work, i'll send it back and get a different one.
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That's right. I don't get it either. You burn a disc, you then scamp as quickly as you can to you 3DO, and guaranteed first time it won't boot. Neither the second time. The 3rd time, and for ever onwards it'll be fine. Sounds daft but maybe the actual disc (not the platsic bit) takes time to cool down or something...
Thought I might add to my last post. I've had trouble with my new cakebox of CD-Rs. While the FZ-1 still read them... JUST... the videos in Demolition Man for example were skipping beyond belief. I managed to look through my old orders from an online shop, and just bought another batch of the same older CD-Rs. They work perfectly. I thought it was the colour of the dye that made a difference - it's not. It's just the brand. Same brand, different colour dye, and they work just as well. If you want to play backups on an FZ-1, give "Ritek CDR Full Face Printable CD-R by Traxdata (1x-52x)" media a try. Hope this helps!
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So you compare the lifetime of a, by today's standards, very simple console running at 12.5 MHz and consuming only about 8 watts with a current-generation console that uses a multi-core cell processor running at 3.2 GHz and consuming 120 watts? Heat is the key here. The hotter the components get, the smaller their lifetime will be. Not the mention all the additional stuff that can fail in an Xbox 360: Hard disk, fans, etc.The_Legend wrote:3DO systems are very durable. Cheap example:
FZ-1 and FZ-10...no problems whatsoever. (Made in the 90s)
Xbox360...died within 2 years. (Made a few years ago)
Yep, they just don't make them like they used to.
Thank god people can decide: More advanced bling bling and faster cpu (360, PS3)
OR reliable, solid, quality (3DO, PC Engine, 16Bit, N64)
For some people 2nd point is more important.
After my 360 died I got it repaired and sold it on the same day,
cause I didn't want to support fake industry.
The PS3 has BR drive, HD and firmware problems rising.
OR reliable, solid, quality (3DO, PC Engine, 16Bit, N64)
For some people 2nd point is more important.
After my 360 died I got it repaired and sold it on the same day,
cause I didn't want to support fake industry.
The PS3 has BR drive, HD and firmware problems rising.
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Good point. At a local game store they sell old dead consoles. You don't see 2600's but once in a blue moon. Almost never an NES. A few random SNES, and a few more Genesis. Then a pile of Playstations. Now a few Gamecubes, Xbox, and PS2 systems are slipping in. Heat and complexity are becoming more of a factor than ever before.WindowsKiller wrote:So you compare the lifetime of a, by today's standards, very simple console running at 12.5 MHz and consuming only about 8 watts with a current-generation console that uses a multi-core cell processor running at 3.2 GHz and consuming 120 watts? Heat is the key here. The hotter the components get, the smaller their lifetime will be. Not the mention all the additional stuff that can fail in an Xbox 360: Hard disk, fans, etc.The_Legend wrote:3DO systems are very durable. Cheap example:
FZ-1 and FZ-10...no problems whatsoever. (Made in the 90s)
Xbox360...died within 2 years. (Made a few years ago)
Yep, they just don't make them like they used to.
The main problem is consumers will not pay a premium price for something that really needs to be over engineered
Although heat is an issue it doesn't explain why a 3do's cd drive will outlast most music CD drives.
I've sighted the example previously of the original blu ray players already outlasting the newer ones - why - because either crappier fans or no fans at all are present to save production costs
Windows killer has a good point but my argument is as components increase in complexity so should the corresponding reliabilty solutions.
But who's gonna pay for it - no manufacturer wants another 3do, CDi pricing disaster on their hands
Although heat is an issue it doesn't explain why a 3do's cd drive will outlast most music CD drives.
I've sighted the example previously of the original blu ray players already outlasting the newer ones - why - because either crappier fans or no fans at all are present to save production costs
Windows killer has a good point but my argument is as components increase in complexity so should the corresponding reliabilty solutions.
But who's gonna pay for it - no manufacturer wants another 3do, CDi pricing disaster on their hands
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This can be explained, too. If you really mean "music CD drives": keep in mind that they are constantly working as long as music plays. If you play 2 hours of music, then the drive is working constantly for 2 hours. But if you play a 3DO game for 2 hours, the drive will maybe utilized for only 5 to 10 minutes with gaps in between (of course, that's not true for all games, but for a good part).mattyg wrote:Although heat is an issue it doesn't explain why a 3do's cd drive will outlast most music CD drives.
It will also last longer than modern drives because of its low speed. Low speed means less vibration, and that in turn means longer lifetime.
And finally, the 3DO filesystem has a very clever design that avoids seeking whenever possible, stressing the mechanics much less than ISO9660-based filesystems.
Once again some good points both for and against from windowskiller.
Yes 2 x cd drives do less work and are less stress than music drives
But.............
[/quote]And finally, the 3DO filesystem has a very clever design that avoids seeking whenever possible, stressing the mechanics much less than ISO9660-based filesystems.
So why cant the 360/ps3 have a clever file system ? or smarter operating systems?
because R & D costs and consumers wont pay, anyway , why not get suckers to buy again and again when their systems fail outside of warranty [/quote]
Yes 2 x cd drives do less work and are less stress than music drives
But.............
[/quote]And finally, the 3DO filesystem has a very clever design that avoids seeking whenever possible, stressing the mechanics much less than ISO9660-based filesystems.
So why cant the 360/ps3 have a clever file system ? or smarter operating systems?
because R & D costs and consumers wont pay, anyway , why not get suckers to buy again and again when their systems fail outside of warranty [/quote]
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3DO is dead , long live 3DO
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3DO is dead , long live 3DO
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"The greatest games in the world take seconds to learn but months to master. The worst take months to learn and minutes to finish."...MattyG
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Bingo!
They seem to think that bootleggers would buy their games if they couldn't copy them.
I've always believed that the guys who copy/bootleg do it because they can not because they specifically want something
No gamer minds paying a reasonable price for box art , manuals etc if the games worth it.
I mean look at the 3do collectors among us CD-Rs are considered worthless in comparison to a nice original in long box
The current console industry is a mess. We're back to the '90s - same games appearing across all platforms . The same arguments often aimed at the 3do then can apply now - only now they should know better
They seem to think that bootleggers would buy their games if they couldn't copy them.
I've always believed that the guys who copy/bootleg do it because they can not because they specifically want something
No gamer minds paying a reasonable price for box art , manuals etc if the games worth it.
I mean look at the 3do collectors among us CD-Rs are considered worthless in comparison to a nice original in long box
The current console industry is a mess. We're back to the '90s - same games appearing across all platforms . The same arguments often aimed at the 3do then can apply now - only now they should know better
"purge with fire Bretheren"
3DO is dead , long live 3DO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K2kuP_anAc
"The greatest games in the world take seconds to learn but months to master. The worst take months to learn and minutes to finish."...MattyG
3DO is dead , long live 3DO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K2kuP_anAc
"The greatest games in the world take seconds to learn but months to master. The worst take months to learn and minutes to finish."...MattyG