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Post by Vance » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:20 am

So my videogame store has had a rather rocky history these last few years, bouncing between three locations, the current one being absolutely horrible with hobos screaming about how they're going to knife each other right outside on two occasions this month.

Well, despite the landlord finding my vaporizer in the apartment I rent upstairs, it looks like I get to return to Little Tokyo. She is still talking to the management group, but it seems like they're going to offer us a contract.

I had to explain the vaporizer. A man with a thyroid needs his relief, seriously. But now I can get back to pimpin'!

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Post by 3DOKid » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:54 am

This is good news.

I still intend to open a game store after I get my payout. So, what you can do for me is tell me what you call your store and I'll call mine the same but with a "v2.0" after it :) Oh, how we will chuckle, and I won't have to think.

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Post by Austin » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:16 am

:lol:, nice.

Just out of curiosity, what did it originally take to start up said-videogame store (inventory and finacially speaking, anyway)?

I've always contemplated doing that myself..

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Post by Vance » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:13 pm

Some thick sunglasses and a tin cup, if you don't do it right.

Honestly, knowledge of how to start is a lot more important than money, but I wouldn't do it without a very thick comfort cushion, say at least $100,000. New games carry a profit margin of about 15-20% unless you find a reliable closeout specialist, so you need to be able to take care of yourself for about a year while the trade-ins start to cycle in.

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Post by Austin » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:42 am

Vance wrote:Some thick sunglasses and a tin cup, if you don't do it right.

Honestly, knowledge of how to start is a lot more important than money, but I wouldn't do it without a very thick comfort cushion, say at least $100,000. New games carry a profit margin of about 15-20% unless you find a reliable closeout specialist, so you need to be able to take care of yourself for about a year while the trade-ins start to cycle in.
Ah, ok.. Makes sense. 15-20% margin on new product though, is that true? My managers @ Electronics Boutique must have been fooling us purposefully in order to sell more used product.. :lol:

"How to start"--Do you mean along the lines of learning business rule & law, the leasing process, sourcing proper distributers, setting up an efficient inventory system, etc., etc., amongst other things?

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Post by Vance » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:59 pm

Business law is moot, especially in bigger cities. Except that more than four arcade machines in LA is horrible bullshit that they will kill you for. Learning what license you need alone is tricky, but once you find the proper office they tend to have a big guide on everything for you. What's taxable, what's not, etc etc. Confusion can spring from county and city definitions. I'm right next to the building that gives you county licenses, but it's a one hour drive to the city office... doesn't make sense, but whatever.

The leasing process is the worst part. All I can say is never back down on what you want, and be willing to walk away from otherwise nice opportunities if you don't get your way. The kind of landlord who won't work with you now won't work with you later.

Proper distributors in America are Ingram Entertainment. Pricey, but you get price protection (price drops and they cover you), which is the only way an indie shop will ever get it. Otherwise, I can set you up with some nice secondaries if they ship out of LA.

For inventory tracking, drop near two grand for the big Quickbooks Point of Sale bundle. I've read a ton of bad reviews on CNET, I have to assume from people who want you to spend five grand on their PoS system. QB PoS is amazing software.

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Post by Vance » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:34 am

Okay, I've moved some stuff in. I'm sitting in the store right now. It has the most obnoxious paint scheme, all yellow and orange up front, green on the mid-trim, and violet on the back wall. I realize now that the cardboard box on the ground was to cover the spot where somebody was murdered, probably. The ceiling tiles are completely damaged by condensing water, likely from the hostel upstairs.

The switches don't seem to work logically, but this is a 100-year-old building that seems to have received the most cursory of upgrades. The front lock needs to go, and the air conditioning is a wall unit stuck through the mid-top of the front facade. There is a ceiling panel stuck above it for some reason, maybe to not let the air escape.

But it came with an AVN catalog, so I have all the naked women my poor eyes can stand.

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Post by Austin » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:21 am

Ah, thanks for all the info. That helps me understand better than I did before. I have about five years of working mainstream gaming retail, then a year of working a local independent shop, so I am fairly well-versed in how to run the day-to-day operations.. It's all the behind-the-scenes stuff I need to get familiar with.

I can't picture myself working for others my entire life, so I really need to get on this.. Finding the funds to start something like it though is going to be the hard part. Time to start saving, I suppose?

Interesting info regarding the arcade machines, btw. I thought there was some kind of restriction.. If I ever manage to do this, there will definitely be at least a handful of machines..

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Post by Vance » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:26 am

Employee Manual, page 7: If you sell a copy of Shenmue, have the decency to apologize to the customer.

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Post by Austin » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:34 am

Vance wrote:Employee Manual, page 7: If you sell a copy of Shenmue, have the decency to apologize to the customer.
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Post by Vance » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:47 am

"Oh hi, do you have Super Nintendo power cords?"

"The SNES AC adapter. We do, they are six bucks plus tax."

Man and woman exchange a look. "Let's just get one on eBay" she says a little too loudly, "it'll be cheaper."

"Right, here, I'll help." I call up eBay and look up the part. "Yes, here's one for four dollars."

"Do you think you could match that?"

I buy these for $4.50 apiece. "You want me to price match with the internet?

"Yeah."

"Sure. Give me money."

They hand over a $20 bill. I make change. $10.

"Wait, you still owe me more!"

"I do not. Shipping was another six dollars."

"That's a ripoff!"

"I have to agree. But remember, the internet ripped you off. I only facilitated the exchange."

"I want a refund!"

"Sure. Gimme that." I take the ten and return sixteen dollars.

"Wait, you owe me my twenty back."

"Shipping is non-refundable, sir."

We eventually agreed on a compromise. He would purchase the two dollar cord which also had the six dollar shipping attached. This would not have happened if we did not rely so heavily on the internet, is basically the moral of the story.

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Post by 3DOKid » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:44 am

If I could go into a shop in the UK and buy a SNES Powercord, I'd likely pitch a tent outside and worship the proprietor.

People are stupid too. The more stupid they are the more likely they are to do something really stupid. The more really stupid stuff they do, the more likely they're are to die from it.

...and that's why i agree with the principles of the Theory of Human Evolution. For millions of years, the stupid people killed themselves and the more intelligent folks lived on to improve the species.

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Post by Lemmi » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:24 pm

3DOKid wrote: ...and that's why i agree with the principles of the Theory of Human Evolution. For millions of years, the stupid people killed themselves and the more intelligent folks lived on to improve the species.
you need to watch Idiocracy (2006) www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
this is where this world is going.
the stupid people are now out F'ing the smart people and soon the smart people will be extinct
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Post by NikeX » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:06 pm

3DOKid wrote:(...)
...and that's why i agree with the principles of the Theory of Human Evolution. For millions of years, the stupid people killed themselves and the more intelligent folks lived on to improve the species.
file found: Social Darwinism reloaded_

intelligent people develop weapons of mass destruction, intelligent people build and plan oil rigs, intelligent people run bio labs,
the elite says which person can die and which can live, intelligent people say who is stupid, intelligent people make war and send
in the stupid people, super intelligent aflluance guys burn the money on the stock exchange,
the stupid people do not improve the species, but at least they do not try to destroy it. prisons and graveyards are full of so called intelligent people. brandnew you're retro.

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Post by NikeX » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:14 pm

Lemmi wrote:
3DOKid wrote: ...and that's why i agree with the principles of the Theory of Human Evolution. For millions of years, the stupid people killed themselves and the more intelligent folks lived on to improve the species.
you need to watch Idiocracy (2006) www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
this is where this world is going.
the stupid people are now out F'ing the smart people and soon the smart people will be extinct
No, the world is turning into a super clever elite wonderland, where all "stupid people" (99%) - as the intelligent people call them, because they
have preogerative of interpreatation will be outsourced from society, being
cut of from their human rights, their families being destroyed by state agendas, kids turned into human robots.

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Post by NikeX » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:20 pm

A very good buddy of mine who is a physicist, knows much more than I, but has a philosophy of a 12 year old (he divides people in good / bad, right / wrong, dumb / smart). When we talk his talking becomes very shameful and naive. Easy Internet thinking is in the people's head already.

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Post by 3DOKid » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:54 pm

Lemmi wrote:
3DOKid wrote: ...and that's why i agree with the principles of the Theory of Human Evolution. For millions of years, the stupid people killed themselves and the more intelligent folks lived on to improve the species.
you need to watch Idiocracy (2006) www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
this is where this world is going.
the stupid people are now out F'ing the smart people and soon the smart people will be extinct
Not true. Really stupid people drive too fast, in bad cars, don't go to the doctors when they are ill, walk into lions cages, eat gone off food, eat too much, smoke, f**k too much (and catch all sort of diseases) all manner of things. A few of which I haven't even done. They need more stupid people just to keep the equilibrium. They tend to kill off themselves or render themselves irrelevant so quickly, it's a good thing they are on the accelerated breeding curve.

Stephen Hawkins bores me, imagine a world cram packed with his kind too.

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Post by Vance » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:47 am

Those fucking smart people, always infringing on your rights.

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Post by Vance » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:04 am

I can honestly barely follow the path of logic that brought us to this point. Well done, people.

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Post by 3DO Experience » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:28 pm

At 3DO Zone we can derail any topic with minimal posts!
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Post by BryWI » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:14 pm

onward with the de-railing. Idiocracy is an awesome movie. love it!

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Post by Vance » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:45 pm

FINALLY got the contract signed. It says nothing about dogs. I have bonded very well with a tiny Shiba Inu puppy at the local shelter, who is currently tearing up and sleeping on an old sweater of mine so that he knows my scent.

There is a homeless guy across the street. He wears trashbags all the time. Not just over his jacket (it's 93 degrees out) but tied in a cone over his head. I call him Bleep Blorp Bleep. And he's not the weirdest regular in the neighborhood.

Also, I'm volunteering to help Uwe Boll in November.

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Post by 3DOKid » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:35 pm

Vance wrote:FINALLY got the contract signed. It says nothing about dogs. I have bonded very well with a tiny Shiba Inu puppy at the local shelter, who is currently tearing up and sleeping on an old sweater of mine so that he knows my scent.

There is a homeless guy across the street. He wears trashbags all the time. Not just over his jacket (it's 93 degrees out) but tied in a cone over his head. I call him Bleep Blorp Bleep. And he's not the weirdest regular in the neighborhood.

Also, I'm volunteering to help Uwe Boll in November.
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Post by Vance » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:29 pm

I'm lobbying for him to do a God Hand flick.

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Post by 3DOKid » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:07 pm

They're doing a remake of Logans Run. I Loved Logans Run. Nothing to do with Uwe Boll by the way.

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Post by Vance » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:02 am

"Do you have that Japanese... learning?"

"My Japanese Coach for DS?"

"Yeah!"

"We're out. It sells pretty well here."

"Oh... (too many minutes about how he want's to learn Japanese, I think one minute) anyway, I've been learning by watching anime."

"So... what, like 'Please no, you're my brother?'"

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Post by 3DO Experience » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:10 am

They've been talking about doing a Logan's Run remake for how many years? I hope they do it and do it well but the way hollywood is pumping out crappy remakes right now it could end up very sour.
Vance wrote:"So... what, like 'Please no, you're my brother?'"
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Post by 3DOKid » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:34 am

...it goes further than that surely?

More typically in ANime it's...

...please no, you're my brother.
...and you killed my other brother.
...and ate our father.
...and you're the evil genius behind the giga-mega-robot-zilla
...and you're dead!
...and you're actually my mother!!!
...AND YOU'RE A ROBOT
...FROM MARS!
...YOU'RE MEE!!!

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Post by Austin » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:54 am

:lol:

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Post by Auto-Fox » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:34 pm

IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!1!!11
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