A question. (theoretical science/social one)

Post by **3DOKid** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:01 pm

What do you think would be the result of science proving beyond all reasonable doubt that there was (a non-religion based) life after death.

I think they (the man) would tell us where Elvis has been living, open all of area 51 to public tours and hand out free porn just to distract us from this...

Mass suicides? Economic collapse? Anarchy? All of the above? Or nothing? Would things trundle on as they always have...?

What would you do if it was announced tomorrow?

I've been pondering this all day.

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mattyg · Post by **mattyg** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:39 pm

I'd make sure my superannuation fund would cover it and tell every bloody life insurance company to piss off

BryWI · Post by **BryWI** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:42 pm

I know where you are coming from on this and I could write a very long theory upon this subject (maybe tommorow) But I want to say there is life after death. As a human you may die but the atoms etc etc still live on. Now for a my real responsive very soonish....

sneth · Post by **sneth** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:45 pm

There would be a religious war against science in order to hold their power over the masses.

Scarlettkitten · Post by **Scarlettkitten** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:11 am

sneth wrote:There would be a religious war against science in order to hold their power over the masses.

Gotta agree with this

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:16 am

Hypothetically speaking, prior to this they would have already discovered the secret to curing cancer, right?

Post by **3DO Experience** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:22 am

Most of it would probably depend on what was in the afterlife. I mean for all we know from what you said our "after-selves" could just be one energy being eating another energy being to continue existence.... ghost cannibalism!

BryWI · Post by **BryWI** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:15 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZbhCkezc8E

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:45 am

First article that came to mind when you said "life after death" ...

http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/01/jag ... _death.php

Post by **3DOKid** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:47 am

Austin wrote:Hypothetically speaking, prior to this they would have already discovered the secret to curing cancer, right?

Not necessarily.

Lemmi · Post by **Lemmi** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:21 pm

i dont believe there is

so thats my reply

Post by **3DOKid** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:50 pm

Plenty of people, believe plenty of things. What I'm talking about is undeniable scientific proof. A simple test you can do at home.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:28 pm

I think that whatever the said-afterlife is like would have the largest influence on what people choose to do.

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:16 am

Austin wrote:I think that whatever the said-afterlife is like would have the largest influence on what people choose to do.

Agreed.

Post by **3DOKid** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:50 am

Good Point.

Post by **3DOKid** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:06 pm

Two further points on this.

Assume for a second (within the realm of science fiction if that helps) that human memories, which make up a huge chunk of 'who you are' are not stored in the skull or the brain but rather in a wave format somewhere in the zero-point energy field. The back ground energy that's ever present. And your brain rather than acting like a giant hard disk, in fact acts like transceiver. Writing your memories to the zero point energy field and then reading them when you are trying to remember something. There is some evidence to suggest that memories are not stored in the skull based on experiments on animals back when western scientists could get away with such experiments. Also, if we make the leap that the human brain acts like a radio transceiver and we're all tuned to specific frequencies, it might explain why odd phenomena exists with twins. Two people operating on close frequencies able, over great distances, to read each other thoughts.

Not so weird an idea remember. Your eye's receive and manage light waves information, your ears's do the same with sound waves information, why not the brain with energy waves for information?

Next assumption. Back in the 1970s the Americans and the Russians played around with something called Remote Viewing. http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/index.cfm

Basically, a skill, that can be taught with varying degree's of success, that will allow people to travel great distances with only their mind. Both the Russians and the American scientists agreed that it seemed possible but the degree of 'usefulness' was limited since the result varied wildly. i.e. they agreed it was possible but they couldn't use it to spy on each other reliably, so they gave up.

If this is true, some part of the human mind can live external to the body. Ooh? A Soul? Could be right?

If your memories survive and your conscience mind survives, surely that's an after life?

But what's it like?

Three options.

1. It's some giant energy pool, when all the paranoias of life fade away, the once human being share and open their minds free from the limitations of the physical world. A utopia where you have freedom, and peace, and love, and eternity, and the pain and struggle of physical life is forgotten, and all the knowledge of man is shared.

2. Door number 2: The bible was right to an extent. Hell, is separation from God. Or rather terminal, endless, solitude. separated from the god made flesh, operating on your own frequency, you can no longer interact with people. You are separated from Gods creation (earth, humans, chipmunks, etc) and exist in the endless void of space. Doomed to reflect on the physical once you have and possible squandered.

3. Option 3. More of the same. You exist in another dimension. Your soul/spirit is attracted to another 'transceiver' in another dimension. Like reincarnation. More phone bills, more nagging, more confusion, more dinners, more comedy, more like it is now. More 3DOKid (Just an alternate reality 3DOKid -- where I might be funny

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So, what would you do if it was either 1, 2 or 3?

Blow your own brains out? Pray? Carry on? Bot worry about it?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:26 am

Some interesting thoughts, 3DOKid. I think your first paragraph is especially plausible. There are lots of things we cannot see with the naked eye, things that I will assume most people a little too innundated with American Idol are unaware of.

One thing that has interested me for a while now is how it's said that we only concsiously use a very small marginal percentage of our brains. Combining all the particles and waves that we cannot see with our eyes, one can only wonder what's really going on in our sub-concious behind the scenes. It could be a lot more than anyone could imagine at this time in history.

Anyways, answering your hypothetical question, regardless of what option was true, I would probably carry on. I mean, I enjoy videogames and pinball way too much to just off myself on a whim. Well, at least now I do, anyway.

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:33 am

There have been tests many years ago. They've checked the weight of
people shortly before their (anticipated) death and shortly afterwards.
Goal was to measure, if their was a change in weight when the soul
left the body. No weight changes occured. Ergo: The soul has no mass.

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Austin wrote:
One thing that has interested me for a while now is how it's said that we only concsiously use a very small marginal percentage of our brains.:

That has alway fascinated me to. W/o going in to much detail, the layman in me has always felt that the large % of seemingly unknown brain has to be their for a reason.

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:01 pm

Recently I've read an article saying that we already reached
the maximum brain-power possible.

The thing is: the brain itself would be able to run at a higher
"processing speed", but it would need more energy for that.
And our bodies can't provide more energy for the brain.

So we are finally all like Playstation Portables.
The CPU could go on higher speed, if the batteries were better.

Post by **3DOKid** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:25 am

I think the brain usage thing is like computers or CPU's. Opening Notepad can spike your CPU to 100%, but obviously that's not the full potential of the CPU. Like wise, wiping your own bum can use 100% of you concentration, but (hopefully) it's not your full potential. (Although...)

I'm with Austin. I personally like being alive. I love the cities we've built, the machines we've made, the things we've seen and done. I don't want miss anything. I guess i'm going to be a ghost. A poltergeist.

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:53 am

3DOKid wrote: A poltergeist.

Hey, nice German word!

Recently I've read in a British magazine a poll called "How German
are you?".
One of the questions was:
What's your favourite number?
a) seven
b) two
c) nein!

Post by **3DOKid** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:07 pm

doppelgänger that's a good one too

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:36 am

Hey, how did you make the "a" with those funny little dots on your
keyboard?

Yeah, let me think...

-kindergarten
-schnaps
-kaput
-zeitgeist
-angst
-dreck
-ersatz
-gemeinschaft
-gemuetlich
-gestalt
-heiligenschein
-schadenfreude
-sauerkraut
-weltanschauung
-wunderkind

Hm... all very interesting words!

Post by **3DOKid** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:20 am

Angst is german???!? You live and learn.

Off topic.My other favourite German word, and I'm not trying to be funny, is Messerschmitt. I used to make Airfix model planes as a kid, and I loved 'sports car' like WW2 fighter planes. So, Super Marine Spitfire, Hawker Hurricane, Messerschmitt BF109, Mitsubishi Zero and the P51 Mustang. We have an air museum down the road (Duxford) and they are all there. Truly beautiful machines.

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:47 am

Messerschmitt! Yes, nice!

But, though Messerschmitt is a combination of 2 German words
(Messer = knife, Schmitt = Smith), it's basically more a name than a
regularly used word in German language. Probably comparable to an
English surname like "Cunningham" or something like this.
(Which also has a meaning somehow, but isn't really part of the vocabulary.)
Willy Messerschmitt was the chief designer at the Messerschmitt company.