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I had a dream that 3DO Kid stopped posting on his blog

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:31 am
by UnholyTancred
Because he defected to North Korea, and as a result was unable to continue working on his blog.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:06 pm
by 3DOKid
Kim Young Il would have to get up pretty early to stop me. Oh indeed. And, to be honest, I've tried Kim-chi, and while it's alright, I couldn't eat it every day. Not that many North Koreans get to eat every day mind you.

I'm only likely to defect to Hugh Heffners mansion. If the wife would let me, which is unlikely. Or if some fabulously wealthy aged soon-to-die old women wanted me as her love-slave. And I stood to inherit millions. Still might need permission on that one too, but it would be an easier discussion than living with Hugh. ;)

As a rule geeks like me don't generally stumble across those kind of opportunities. Sadly.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:24 pm
by UnholyTancred
He wouldn't have to get up early. Few North Koreans have internet access and electricity is turned off in the country at night and re-activated in the morning after the national loudspeakers sound the national alarm clock.

My physiological psychology professor was right. He said that dreams are pretty much a rundown of the day's events. Also the best way to study for exams, is to read all the material and then go straight to sleep. The information will be fresh and will instantly start processing into long term memory. He warned against it though, saying how you'll go mad by dreaming about the crap you're studying.

Well I was reading about North Korean defectors for 3 hours, right after I played some old video games.

The result?

Well, the title of this thread says it all.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:05 pm
by 3DOKid
I had a dream about squid men. Except they were normal men with tiny heads, and loads of massive fangs that seemed bigger than their heads. And they were tied to a rusty iron boat, and every-time water, that poured out of the holes in the boat above them, splashed on to them, they screamed in hideous tortured animal kind of way.

...but then I eat cheese before going to sleep. :D

On a serious note: A few years ago, I read two or three books on Kim Young Il, I'm no expert, but he's real piece of work, as they say. I watched a few documentaries on North Korea too. All when he was threatening to nuke my family in Japan, I thought I'd read up on the guy. (he could ruin my inheritance ;) )

It's pretty appalling how people live there, and how they're treated. But it's also the lies. Were all lied to by our governments, but... Kim Young Il is a super star messiah? WTF?

With the social conditioning the N.Koreans have, the brain washing and the fear they live under and the basic oppression, starvation, The concentration camps... then you hear about the rebels in North Korea?

I don't know. To be a political rebel in North Korea? One mans terrorist is supposed to be another mans hero but.. it's difficult to see those guys as anything but intensely brave. It's really difficult to imagine what it is like.

I actually gave up looking into it, because there is nothing any of us can do, and it's pretty upsetting. It's crap, but...

You can give money, but it won't get there. You can campaign, but that F**ker won't hear you. Short of sneaking in a killing the SOB personally, and more importantly killing his all his cronies...

I always feel pretty lucky. Britain is not perfect, but...

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:49 pm
by UnholyTancred
Kim Jong-Il is absolutely amazing. Things were bad under his father but at least the party actually held Congresses, plenums, and meetings. No such things have been going on after Kim Jong-Il was placed in charge.

I haven't heard of any rebels in North Korea. I don't know about anyone who challenges the system there. I just constantly hear of people trying to escape to China.

Mind you, Western media is sheer propaganda as well. They over exagerate the conditions of North Korea. Don't get me wrong, North Korea is absolutely terrible with a complete lack of human rights along with social, economic, and political freedoms. But there is something fishy when you look at the defectors, almost as if Western countries pay them. I was look at one guy who claimed to have been born in a concentration camp and lived there all his life. The guards were nice enough, aside from the daily beatings, and because he was a model prisoner, they allowed him to marry a fellow inmate.

2 years after his escape and defection to South Korea, he's living in a fancy home, wearing a fancy business suit, and is using a fancy computer. With what job? With what skill? With what education? I'm sure he can recite Juche word for word but hardly there's any occupations in South Korea that require that.

Speaking of Juche, it is the most flawed ideology in existence. This is where the Western propaganda comes in.

"If you want to see what Communism is, go and live in North Korea!"

That is the daily rubbish you hear in USA if you ever bring up Marxism as a subject in a conversation with people who know nothing of politics. Classes, countries, government, etc do not exist in Communism.

Juche is nothing more than Stalinism, a reactionary totalitarian state-capitalist regime, but also highly nationalistic. It would rob the Koreans of their pride if they were following some other country's ideology. Which is why Kim Jung-Il claimed that Juche is the correct ideology for North Korea. He claimed Marxism related only to Western European countries, Marxism-Leninism related to Imperial Russia, but Juche is the great Korean ideology which related to Korea.

The Korean people, finally free from imperialist powers, would be given a big blow to their pride if they were following a foreign ideology. Kim Jong-Il was even born in Soviet Russia but those facts have to be hidden and modified. The role of the Chinese People's Volunteer Army in the Korean war was downplayed and almost completely erased. On the Democratic People's Republic of Korea official website, they claim that South Koreans are shot and killed by American soldiers if they attempt to visit North Korea.

Amidst all the lies and propaganda, some truth can be found. There are museums that are dedicated to the people who died during the Korean War and showcase American brutality and war crimes that America denies.

As for international aid and protests, I made a post about that recently: ... ty-4255986

Even after all this, I would love to visit North Korea. NOT become a citizen, but visit as a tourist. I want to see Pyongyang. The Ryugyong Hotel is the most beautiful, and at the same time the most haunting, structure I've ever seen pictures of. From the Western sources I've gathered, North Koreans deny it's existence because it was never finished yet the hotel is gigantic and shadows over everything.

Unfortunately, the tours are guided and deviation from the set path is not allowed so if Pyongyang isn't part of the tour then you cannot go there. To make matters even worse, being a citizen of the United States I'm not even allowed there. Technically, we're still at war and I'd be arrested for espionage under the Trading With The Enemy act.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:57 pm
by mattyg
I just stumbled across this thread and felt compelled to add a a little - I dated a South Korean girl for a while in high school and learnt much of the culture and what would go on as far as propoganda from both sides.

As an Australian I am quite proud of the fact that Karl Marx once visited our country and made the statement that our country was a true workers utopia - we became a unionised country very early on in the industrial revolution and as result for many years our people gained many rights in the workplace that most other western countries frowned on.

Whilst it is different now , we have a national health system that means free medical attention to all citizens , if you want a specific practioner you just wait a little longer and if you want private hospitals etc you pay.

Voting in elections is compulsory - it is our best protection against complacency and apathy.

If you want to go to university the government lends you the money interest free - they simply take it out of your post graduate wages as a percentage relative to what you earn

Our system may not be perfect but we gave up the communist stigma long ago - we dont care if we get branded socialist in some of our policies - our people are generally healthy and educated - small price to pay.

I believe capitalism and socialism can work hand in hand.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:51 am
by UnholyTancred


Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:16 am
by mattyg
:) if only I could believe it could work

take care comrade

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:33 am
by UnholyTancred
Comrade! It can, and it will, work!

Granted I may be drunk at the moment, who am I kidding I am fully blasted, but but but but but but nothing can be more democratic and more rational than the working class governing society.

As Comrade Lenin said:
"The dictatorship of the proletariat alone can emancipate humanity from the oppression of capital, from the lies, falsehood and hypocrisy of bourgeois democracy — democracy for the rich — and establish democracy for the poor, that is, make the blessings of democracy really accessible to the workers and poor peasants, whereas now (even in the most democratic — bourgeois — republic) the blessings of democracy are, in fact, inaccessible to the vast majority of working people.
Take, for example, freedom of assembly and freedom of the press. The Scheidemanns and Kautskys, the Austerlitzes and Renners assure the workers that the present elections to the Constituent Assembly in Germany and Austria are "democratic". That is a lie. In practice the capitalists, the exploiters, the landowners and the profiteers own 9/10 of the best meeting halls, and 9/10 of the stocks of newsprint, printing presses, etc.. The urban workers and the farm hands and day laborers are, in practice, debarred from democracy by the "sacred right of property" (guarded by the Kautskys and Renners, and now, to our regret, by Friedrich Adler as well) and by the bourgeois state apparatus, that is, bourgeois officials, bourgeois judges, and so on. The present "freedom of assembly and the press" in the "democratic" (bourgeois democratic) German republic is false and hypocritical, because in fact it is freedom for the rich to buy and bribe the press, freedom for the rich to befuddle the people with venomous lies of the bourgeois press, freedom for the rich to keep as their "property" the landowners' mansions, the best buildings, etc.. The dictatorship of the proletariat will take from the capitalists and hand over to the working people the landowners' mansions, the best buildings, printing presses and the stocks of newsprint.
But this means replacing "universal", "pure" democracy by the "dictatorship of one class", scream the Scheidemanns and Kautskys, the Austerlitzes and Renners (together with their followers in other countries — the Gomperses, Hendersons, Renaudels, Vandervelde and Co.).
Wrong, we reply. This means replacing what in fact is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (a dictatorship hypocritically cloaked in the forms of the democratic bourgeois republic) by the dictatorship of the proletariat. This means replacing democracy for the rich by democracy for the poor. This means replacing freedom of assembly and the press for the minority, for the exploiters, by freedom of assembly and the press for the majority of the population, for the working people. This means a gigantic, world historic extension of democracy, its transformation from falsehood into truth, the liberation of humanity from the shackles of capital, which distorts and truncates any, even the most "democratic" and republican, bourgeois democracy. This means replacing the bourgeois state with the proletarian state, a replacement that is the sole way the state can eventually wither away altogether.

And I can't stop listneing to that goddamn Captian Luc Picard song bloody drunk as fuck!

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:27 pm
by mattyg
I'm afraid I am much too cynical - I am too much a student of history , however ,

It fills me with great joy that there are still idealists!

Read up on Marx's visit here

and have a drink for me ! Smirnoff I presume! :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:31 pm
by UnholyTancred
Ugh. No more drinks! :wink: I have a terrible hangover and can't even remember how I got home haha. Well, that's what I get for drinking cheap whiskey!

But yea, there's plenty of people around that wish to great a better society. I'm in my 3rd year of college and have come across 3 professors who are socialists. One of them is a no bullshit, no concessions, no reforms, Trotskyist just like myself. Another one used to be roommates with the first one in the 80s. He's more of a laid back guy who welcomes reforms. And I don't know too much about the 3rd one. I'm taking a class on political theory and he just said he was a socialist a few days ago after a student called him one. All I know is that he's against Soviet Union and all the other totalitarian "communist" states, but then again who isn't (other than Stalinists).

I, too, read history a lot and the Paris Commune along with Spain before Franco are two great examples of the common people taking control of society.

As for South Koreans, I LOVE their cinema! They make such wonderful movies! The Brotherhood of War, R-Point, GP 506, Attack The Gas Station, The Chaser, etc are all absolutely wonderful films. It's a shame that Hollywood is stealing them and remaking them (R-Point, The Chaser).

And I'll be sure to read up on Marx's visit... once my headache goes away!

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:46 pm
by 3DOKid
I, you may or may not be shocked to hear, am not much of a socialist. More like capitalist-monarchist-authoritarian. That's being British for you.

Still, even I can see recent and current events in the financial markets, what a stupid crowd of greedy tossers bankers are. I have, having mixed with 'trader' types for some years now, been staggered at how such the stupid-greedy n*b-heads can have so much power over the world.

We'll ban short trading (which is fundamentally counter, I believe, to what share holding is about) for financial institutes and only for 4 months. Gee -- thanks. And cap CEO earnings. Right. So, how will this help the world economy precisely? It won't but we will all feel a lot a better. Nice. What great policies.

Short trading isn't the only problem mind you.

Futures trading, which okay, seems reasonable, but on commodities? The world is starving and/or paying through the nose for fuel, not because supply is insufficient or demand is too high but because someone will make a profit on gambling on the commodities market. They gamble that the price will go higher. They want/need the price of oil to go up.

The price of fuel is not set by the Arabs or the Ruskies, it's set by commodity future traders in America, through the self-serving-poorly-regulated London markets.

When Lehmans went belly up the price of oil slumped? Why? Good sodding question.

So the world cruises towards global recession, the banks through their own absolute stupidity start to go bust and remedy their collective losses by gambling our (technically it's ours) money on commodities market...

Errr surely to avoid a recession the price of commodities needs to go down... right? People pay less for gas/petrol/food, cost of stuff goes down, people will have more cash in their pockets, people will pay off their credit cards/prop up the retail sector. But the stupid-spineless governments worry about the banks (oooh let's prosecute short-traders against banks...)


I despise all governments. Make me your emperor and I will show you all the way ;)


Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:06 pm
by mattyg

:lol: :wink: