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Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:50 pm

I was browsing through Electronic Gaming Magazine some more and came across this little writeup on Escape From Monster Manor. I figured that if nothing else, Ewhac would be happy to know that the folks at EGM thought his game was pretty slick. What's all this about zombies, though? I haven't see any of those pop up in the Let's Play...

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by T2KFreeker » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:40 pm

Zombies? Well Hell, what happened there? I don't even recall seeing Zombies in the game either. Perhaps there is another build of the game out there with the Zombies? Now it's time to see if we can dig this up. Perhaps there was another version of the game and they changed it before release. That actually kind of sucks actually!
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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:48 pm

Yeah, given the limited variety of enemies in Escape From Monster Manor, it seems bizarre that they cut one from the game before release. I suppose they had their reasons...

Here's a snippet from Sega Saturn Magazine which made my jaw drop. How can anyone cram so many factual errors into two little paragraphs? And these aren't just little oversights, either; they're "Where on Earth did you get the idea that that was the case?" mistakes.

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Blazing Dragons on the 3DO would have been cool, though. It probably would have lacked mouse support, but hey, so does the Saturn version.
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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by 3DO Experience » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:48 am

Damn! Zombies! Why couldn't we have that beta disc?
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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:28 pm

I was just going through Electronic Gaming Monthly #59 and found the 3DO version of Soccer Kid in their "International Outlook" section. Unfortunately, the article doesn't give any indication of why the game is there. Is it possible that 3DO Soccer Kid was looking like a PAL-only release at that point? Hmm...

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:12 am

The description in this article sounds uncannily like Slayer, but that sure isn't where the screenshot came from. Could this be Dragon Lore? Or a game that was never finished?

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Post by Martin III » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:41 am

Martin III wrote:The description in this article sounds uncannily like Slayer, but that sure isn't where the screenshot came from. Could this be Dragon Lore? Or a game that was never finished?
Anyone? Anyone? ...I could have sworn there were a couple of people who had played Dragon Lore on these forums...

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by goldenband » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:29 am

Martin III wrote:
Martin III wrote:The description in this article sounds uncannily like Slayer, but that sure isn't where the screenshot came from. Could this be Dragon Lore? Or a game that was never finished?
Anyone? Anyone? ...I could have sworn there were a couple of people who had played Dragon Lore on these forums...
Lemmi beat it, though there was a funny pair of posts on AtariAge that showed it took him almost a decade to finish it!
Lemmi, on 12 Aug 2002 - 2:04 PM, said:
Ive been playing the 3DO game Dragon Lore mainly on and off for the past few weeks, i am determined to finish that game icon_smile.gif

Lemmi, on 27 Mar 2011 - 5:09 PM, said:
Dragon Lore - took something like 9 years to finish. i took a long break between playing

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:16 pm

This one made me shed a tear. From the letters page of the May 1995 issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly:

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Post by klogg » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:56 pm

I found the guy on facebook and Linkedin, he became videogame designer at Disney. It would be nice to know how ended his story with the 3DO.
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Post by Dr.Enceladus » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:09 am

Lots n lots of archived 3DO info and reviews can be found in this collection guys. 8)
https://archive.org/details/next-generation-magazine
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Post by a31chris » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:50 am

Nice.
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Post by Lemmi » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:47 am

goldenband wrote:
Martin III wrote:
Martin III wrote:The description in this article sounds uncannily like Slayer, but that sure isn't where the screenshot came from. Could this be Dragon Lore? Or a game that was never finished?
Anyone? Anyone? ...I could have sworn there were a couple of people who had played Dragon Lore on these forums...
Lemmi beat it, though there was a funny pair of posts on AtariAge that showed it took him almost a decade to finish it!
Lemmi, on 12 Aug 2002 - 2:04 PM, said:
Ive been playing the 3DO game Dragon Lore mainly on and off for the past few weeks, i am determined to finish that game icon_smile.gif

Lemmi, on 27 Mar 2011 - 5:09 PM, said:
Dragon Lore - took something like 9 years to finish. i took a long break between playing
heh wow you remembered that :)
and dragon tales doesnt sound like dragon lore at all because dragon lore isnt all set in a dungeon there are tons of outdoor stuff to do, i remember going into a tree (had to shrink myself) and then the nightmare of the last castle. that picture doesnt look familiar at all
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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:31 pm

Thanks for the answer, Lemmi. So, another unreleased game, then? For some reason it just now occurred to me to take a look at the game's listed publisher. Software Toolworks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they did anything on the 3DO remotely like Dragon Tales. Though maybe the game eventually made it out for the PlayStation or something.

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:29 pm

Everyone talks about the great fanboy war of Super Nintendo versus Sega Genesis/Mega Drive. But history seems to have forgotten an equally fierce war: the war between 3DO and CD-i fanboys!

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Post by Saffron » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:50 pm

outstanding graphics on the cdi?

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Post by Martin III » Tue May 26, 2015 7:24 pm

They're probably referring to those games which use the MPEG upgrade card, which allowed the CD-i to run higher quality FMV than the 3DO, at least until the 3DO got its own video card (which wasn't until later).

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:07 am

Looks like whoever was writing this article on a Sega Saturn game had 3DO on the brain. :lol:

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Post by Dr.Enceladus » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:21 am

Martin III wrote:Looks like whoever was writing this article on a Sega Saturn game had 3DO on the brain. :lol:

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:34 pm

A while back we had a thread asking whether or not there were any 3DO games which turned a profit. I was going to post the below clipping there, but for the life of me I can't find that thread anywhere. Anyway, if anyone was still wondering whether or not there were any profitable 3DO games, here's your answer, courtesy of the October 1995 issue of GamePro:

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Over one million copies sold before it became a pack-in game. Yeah, I think it's safe to say Gex must have turned a profit, even discounting the Saturn and PlayStation ports.

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:39 pm

Want to know the real reason why we didn't get Mortal Kombat 3 on the 3DO (or Saturn or Jaguar)? Here it is, courtesy of the November 1995 issue of GamePro:

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Post by Kyosho » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:41 pm

Regarding Dragon Tales, I found this from Questbusters (a newletter-ish magazine? I think?) here.
Software Toolworks

Dragon Tales is Software Toolworks'
answer to Myst and The Seventh Guest. It
is a first-person, fully-rendered CD-ROM
game in which you must rid the land of
evil in a three-chapter story. The simple
interface not only controls the adventure
interface, but also the strategy and
action/arcade elements of the game.
Dragon Tales has gorgeous graphics and
backgrounds and a lot of smooth
animation.
And this, from Edge Magazine, from here:
Dragon Tales

From: Mindscape
Date: Mid '95

Coded by Cryo, the
same developers who
produced Mega Race,
Dragon Tales is a
sumptuous looking
adventure set in an age
of knights and dragons.

Boasting rendered
3D panoramic vistas
with 360-degree views,
plus lifelike animation,
Dragon Tales should be
well worth the wait.

Now, Dragon Lore was released by Mindscape, which at that time had been bought by Software Toolworks. So I think Dragon Tales became Dragon Lore.

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:14 pm

Cool. Thanks so much for the research, Kyosho!

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:29 pm

I dunno if this is something you guys already knew, but it looks like GoldStar was planning on bringing Defcon 5 for the 3DO out in the USA. What you see below is an Electronics Boutique ad from the February 1996 issue of Next Generation. The cover date suggests that the release was likely cancelled when GoldStar decided to drop support for the 3DO. It also means that had they not cancelled it, it would have come out well before the Japanese release. So maybe the JP Defcon 5 is actually a localization of a USA version that never got released? I guess we may never know.

If that doesn't catch your interest, there's also a screenshot of the unreleased Golden Gate: Treasure by the Bay in there for you to enjoy.

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by MathUser » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:32 pm

Wasn't that UMK3 that was rumored for 3do, not MK3?

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:00 pm

MathUser wrote:Wasn't that UMK3 that was rumored for 3do, not MK3?
The Sega Saturn was originally planned to get a version of Mortal Kombat 3, but due to Sony's exclusivity agreement, by the time they were legally allowed to release it, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 had been out in the arcades for several months. Thus, it only made sense to release Ultimate for the Saturn instead of old Mortal Kombat 3. My assumption is that the same thing happened with the 3DO.

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:39 pm

Some more info on 3DO games which actually turned a profit... Seems that Battlesport was one of them. The April 1997 issue of Next Generation tells the tale in a feature on Cyclone Studios. Here's a link to some scans of the article.

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Post by a31chris » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:31 pm

These magazines now looking back on them were filled with so much misinformation.
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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by Martin III » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:54 pm

a31chris wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:31 pm
These magazines now looking back on them were filled with so much misinformation.
Based on...?

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Re: Magazine tidbits

Post by a31chris » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:50 am

Time and looking back.

I'll come back to this thread with anecdotal evidence as time goes on.
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